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Old 11-28-2006, 01:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2 gigs of Shared DDR2 Ram

Alright you hardware junkies, got a question.

I just dished out some cash on a new laptop and added 2 gigs of ram - the only thing that bugs me is that it says shared and I don't exactly know what it means. What's it sharing the memory with and why? Added specs below just incase.

Core 2 Duo - 1.60 ghz
ATI Radeon - 256 mb
2GB of Shared DDR2 Ram. (533 mhz)
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm...

Good question... what I do know...

I know there are some video cards out there that will share their memory with the system's. (Actually it's a one way street. i.e. Taking from the system only.)

I'll poke around and see what I can find...

Google wasn't much help...

After further thought...

Shared memory in reference to system memory...

It goes along with multitasking, more than one process can utilize the RAM at a time.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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it's when the video card uses the system memory instead of having a seperate onboard video memory...

most budget computers & laptops use shared ddr ram.

example: if you have a 2g system and a 256mb video card, it shorts your system memory by 256mb, so really you only have a 1.8g system. so, it slows down your processes a bit.
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Could it be because of the processors dual core processing?
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Nevermind - I changed it to straight up 2 gb ddr2 sdram 677 mhz - problem solved
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Could it be because of the processors dual core processing?
no, processor and ram are seperate. ram is storaage and your processor is the brains of the outfit by processing information (in this case a dual core) which is a single chip containing more than one microprocessor core, effectively multiplying the potential performance with the number of cores (as long as the operating system and software is designed to take advantage of more than one processor). Some components, such as bus interface and second level cache, may be shared (not your ram shared) between cores. Because the cores are physically very close they interface at much faster clock speeds compared to discrete multiprocessor systems, improving overall system performance. so, at 1.6ghz, you can take that as the same thing as a 3.6ghz processor that runs even better & more efficient.

look out for quad-cores becoming availaible
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no, processor and ram are seperate. ram is storaage and your processor is the brains of the outfit by processing information (in this case a dual core) which is a single chip containing more than one microprocessor core, effectively multiplying the potential performance with the number of cores (as long as the operating system and software is designed to take advantage of more than one processor). Some components, such as bus interface and second level cache, may be shared (not your ram shared) between cores. Because the cores are physically very close they interface at much faster clock speeds compared to discrete multiprocessor systems, improving overall system performance. so, at 1.6ghz, you can take that as the same thing as a 3.6ghz processor that runs even better & more efficient.

look out for quad-cores becoming availaible
They are seperate but if the cpu can't handle the load or from what I read the cpu doesn't have l2 cache it would require the caching from the ram.
I found out though, the ram would share itself off to the (cheaper)mobo and cpu; allocating only about 75% of the ram. *shrugs* rid myself of that. Thanks for the awesome info.

quad cores blah! - I hesitated to buy this because of how quickly its outdated. Hopefully it'll be a long run.
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aw, dont fret- i just bought a dual core myself and im super happy with it... (altho quad cores will be hitting the market early 2007, which will be made for the dual processors, and essentially gives you eight processor servers (4 cores to each processor)
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then the day after we'll see 8 cores and so on heh
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That is the current trend (in order to continue making cpus faster): multiple cores.

Speeds have gotten so fast that if you made a single-core any faster than they were, you'd need a refrigeration unit for your system... otherwise your computer would melt like cheddar.
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they are coming out with 10-cores in a couple of years...
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