A Book?

Gilgar · 08-21-2006, 01:39 AM

Well folks, with people taking a renewed interest in poetry here, I thought it may be a good idea to put together a compilation of our works. So here's a few points for disscusion.

1. Would you submit?
2. No one gets top billing, every contributor gets equal recognition.
3. All profits to HoC, sort of like a bake sell or something.
4. Length of book, amount of poems featured.
5. Involvement of others besides me to determine what goes in and what doesn't. (I don't want sole responsibility for those particular decisions.)

Keep in mind these are just a few talking points to feel out the situaton, nothing is definite yet. I would be the one handling submitting the book for publishing, not to mention getting it together. Artwork will be needed if this happens, so you don't nessicarily have to write to be a part of this. Let me know what you all think, I'm counting on to think this over and give feedback.

And remember, this is only loosely associated with HoC, so questions come to me, unless you have problems with me, then go ahead and go to admin.

Gilgar · 08-21-2006, 01:52 AM

A few things just in case you want to read up on them a bit.

Copyright http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/fa...al.html#mywork

HarlotsBeast · 08-22-2006, 12:53 AM

Alrighty then, so let me get this straight? You know how to get a book done up and sold?

Nah... not what I meant...
So, this book sells. Profits go to D for site upgrades, upkeep and longevity, right? And we can submit poetry or artwork for said book? Now, my next question is a doosy... do we, the artists, get a percentage off of the purchase price? Nextly, where should we send submissions? I'm in, if this takes off....

Village Of The Damned · 08-22-2006, 12:56 AM

I'm crap at poems .. hence me doing none lol but I do think it would be a good idea if the outlay to get it off the ground isn't too expensive and after you guys work out all the details

Gilgar · 08-22-2006, 01:54 AM

We can take care of submissions right here at HoC, if it happens I'll start another thread speciffically for them. As for percentages to the contributors I'm not real sure how to work that out. I suppose we could take the number of contributors add a spot in for an HoC split and divide up the profits evenly. I knew this one would be one of the bigger things to work out.

As for getting a book published all you need is a rough manuscript copied about a dozen times and sent off to publishing house around the country. The only real money concern is copy fees and those aren't big enough to worry about. A copyright fee is $45 and can be done after publishing (up to five years after). I hope that covers everything.

HarlotsBeast · 08-22-2006, 03:18 AM

Nono.. what I meant was a percentage off of the purchase, like say, those that have works in the book would pay, for example $14.99, were as the general public would pay $19.99... like an employee discount type thing... I guess I could have just worded it as "get a discount on the purchase price" instead of the way I did... I wouldn't want any type of kickback for contributing, unless it came in the way of benefits on this site, if the proceedes went to D for the site...

Gilgar · 08-22-2006, 11:06 AM

I'm glad you feel that Topher, I'm hoping everyone agrees. As for a discount price at stores, Nope, you can't get one. But, most publishing companies issue what are called authors copies, and I'm sure if it was agreed upon before publishing than all contributors could get a first run copy of the book at no to very little charge.

HarlotsBeast · 08-22-2006, 04:45 PM

K. That sounds good. I'd definitly go for an author's copy. And if/when this happens, I'm sure I could talk a few people into buying a copy. Hell, I may even just buy one for the greater good.

Johnboat · 08-23-2006, 11:14 PM

FYI

Gilgar has received Derek's approval for this.

Johnboat
~HoC Secretary

Gilgar · 08-24-2006, 01:14 AM

Thanks John, I forgot to mention that. Although it doesn't look like more than Topher and I are interested.

HarlotsBeast · 08-24-2006, 03:39 PM

Give it time. Eventually they will see the light. Have faith my child.

Dutchie · 08-25-2006, 06:18 AM

I would if you guys wnat me too
I would love to contribute to something to help hoc

Gilgar · 08-25-2006, 12:45 PM

Sweet, another fly in my web. And this ones nice and juicy, thnx Dutchie.

HarlotsBeast · 08-25-2006, 01:20 PM

The more the merrier hun. Please do submit something for it...

**Exitilus** · 08-28-2006, 10:40 PM

I know I don't head out this way very often everyone. But if you guys need anything from me to get this done just lemme know

Survivor · 08-29-2006, 12:02 AM

I would contribute as long as I don't lose the rights to my poems, I want my works to always remain mine, all I would ask for is an Authors Copy and that all the proceeds go to this site for upgrades and such.

HarlotsBeast · 08-29-2006, 01:36 AM

that's pretty much how things would go... at least I'm hoping so...

Gilgar · 08-29-2006, 05:44 AM

This is why I gave the link for the copyright office. All original works are copyright, Period. Technically you don't even have to get it copyrighted. Also, all original works will remain the property of the author, it's the compilation that would be coppyrighted seperatley, this would prevent others from publishing our book without our say so. And the way it's looking from everyone who has showed interest, all proceeds will go to the HoC. Glad to have you on board mate.

And D, if you got any poetry feel free to contribute man. As far as more help, if not for you we wouldn't have the HoC as a staging area, Big Thanks man.

Survivor · 08-30-2006, 12:30 AM

I am in, let me know, I am now looking forward to this happening, keep me posted, I have plenty of poems

HarlotsBeast · 08-30-2006, 04:35 AM

Yes he does.... more than most going by how short of a time he's been writing...

08-21-2006, 01:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	A Book? Well folks, with people taking a renewed interest in poetry here, I thought it may be a good idea to put together a compilation of our works. So here's a few points for disscusion. 1. Would you submit? 2. No one gets top billing, every contributor gets equal recognition. 3. All profits to HoC, sort of like a bake sell or something. 4. Length of book, amount of poems featured. 5. Involvement of others besides me to determine what goes in and what doesn't. (I don't want sole responsibility for those particular decisions.) Keep in mind these are just a few talking points to feel out the situaton, nothing is definite yet. I would be the one handling submitting the book for publishing, not to mention getting it together. Artwork will be needed if this happens, so you don't nessicarily have to write to be a part of this. Let me know what you all think, I'm counting on to think this over and give feedback. And remember, this is only loosely associated with HoC, so questions come to me, unless you have problems with me, then go ahead and go to admin. __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

08-21-2006, 01:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	A few things just in case you want to read up on them a bit. Copyright http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/fa...al.html#mywork __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

08-22-2006, 12:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	Alrighty then, so let me get this straight? You know how to get a book done up and sold? Nah... not what I meant... So, this book sells. Profits go to D for site upgrades, upkeep and longevity, right? And we can submit poetry or artwork for said book? Now, my next question is a doosy... do we, the artists, get a percentage off of the purchase price? Nextly, where should we send submissions? I'm in, if this takes off.... __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

08-22-2006, 12:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
Village Of The Damned Luke's Lovely Lady Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Age: 29 Posts: 3,499 My Mood:	I'm crap at poems .. hence me doing none lol but I do think it would be a good idea if the outlay to get it off the ground isn't too expensive and after you guys work out all the details __________________

08-22-2006, 01:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	We can take care of submissions right here at HoC, if it happens I'll start another thread speciffically for them. As for percentages to the contributors I'm not real sure how to work that out. I suppose we could take the number of contributors add a spot in for an HoC split and divide up the profits evenly. I knew this one would be one of the bigger things to work out. As for getting a book published all you need is a rough manuscript copied about a dozen times and sent off to publishing house around the country. The only real money concern is copy fees and those aren't big enough to worry about. A copyright fee is $45 and can be done after publishing (up to five years after). I hope that covers everything. __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

08-22-2006, 03:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	Nono.. what I meant was a percentage off of the purchase, like say, those that have works in the book would pay, for example $14.99, were as the general public would pay $19.99... like an employee discount type thing... I guess I could have just worded it as "get a discount on the purchase price" instead of the way I did... I wouldn't want any type of kickback for contributing, unless it came in the way of benefits on this site, if the proceedes went to D for the site... __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

08-22-2006, 11:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	I'm glad you feel that Topher, I'm hoping everyone agrees. As for a discount price at stores, Nope, you can't get one. But, most publishing companies issue what are called authors copies, and I'm sure if it was agreed upon before publishing than all contributors could get a first run copy of the book at no to very little charge. __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

08-22-2006, 04:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	K. That sounds good. I'd definitly go for an author's copy. And if/when this happens, I'm sure I could talk a few people into buying a copy. Hell, I may even just buy one for the greater good. __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

08-23-2006, 11:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Johnboat Mondu's Sperm Bank Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 28 Posts: 3,345 My Mood:	FYI Gilgar has received Derek's approval for this. Johnboat ~HoC Secretary __________________ My cult like following is now taking applications.

08-24-2006, 01:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	Thanks John, I forgot to mention that. Although it doesn't look like more than Topher and I are interested. __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. Last edited by Gilgar; 08-24-2006 at 10:39 AM.

08-24-2006, 03:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	Give it time. Eventually they will see the light. Have faith my child. __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

08-25-2006, 06:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dutchie Lil Ball of Psycho Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 843 My Mood:	I would if you guys wnat me too I would love to contribute to something to help hoc __________________ I am an angel, honestly the horns are just there to keep the halo straight

08-25-2006, 12:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	Sweet, another fly in my web. And this ones nice and juicy, thnx Dutchie. __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

08-25-2006, 01:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	The more the merrier hun. Please do submit something for it... __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

08-28-2006, 10:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Exitilus Sock Violater Site Owner Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington Age: 28 Posts: 5,454 My Mood:	I know I don't head out this way very often everyone. But if you guys need anything from me to get this done just lemme know __________________ Beware the otter, for it is wise and terrible in the same way that bricks really hurt when they are thrown at you. Albert Einstein: Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.

08-29-2006, 12:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Survivor Psychotic Poet Laureate Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 44 Posts: 103 My Mood:	I would contribute as long as I don't lose the rights to my poems, I want my works to always remain mine, all I would ask for is an Authors Copy and that all the proceeds go to this site for upgrades and such. __________________ Amor Itaque Excessum, Unus Itaque Idem Eadem Idem

08-29-2006, 01:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	that's pretty much how things would go... at least I'm hoping so... __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

08-29-2006, 05:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
Gilgar Brandon 1st Blood, Part 2 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 2,499 My Mood:	This is why I gave the link for the copyright office. All original works are copyright, Period. Technically you don't even have to get it copyrighted. Also, all original works will remain the property of the author, it's the compilation that would be coppyrighted seperatley, this would prevent others from publishing our book without our say so. And the way it's looking from everyone who has showed interest, all proceeds will go to the HoC. Glad to have you on board mate. And D, if you got any poetry feel free to contribute man. As far as more help, if not for you we wouldn't have the HoC as a staging area, Big Thanks man. __________________ A dragon you say? I poke him in the eye with my stick of pokeing +2 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

08-30-2006, 12:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
Survivor Psychotic Poet Laureate Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 44 Posts: 103 My Mood:	I am in, let me know, I am now looking forward to this happening, keep me posted, I have plenty of poems __________________ Amor Itaque Excessum, Unus Itaque Idem Eadem Idem

08-30-2006, 04:35 AM	#20 (permalink)
HarlotsBeast Entirely Too Lickable Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 29 Posts: 2,656 My Mood:	Yes he does.... more than most going by how short of a time he's been writing... __________________ Do I Look As Simple As I Feel?

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